Operation Clambake Thread; February 2007
Post by admin » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:23 am
Feb 20th I got this anonymous message in my personal guest book:
“Tragic death in down town clearwater of kyle brennan. died for support of tom cruises anti psych believes”
Kim Palmer found this obituary, but no mention of CoS:
Anybody else know anything about this?
Andreas @ http://www.xenu.net
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- ost by Os Wilkes » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:20 amadmin wrote:Feb 20th I got this anonymous message in my personal guest book:“Tragic death in down town clearwater of kyle brennan. died for support of tom cruises anti psych believes”Kim Palmer found this obituary, but no mention of CoS:
http://www.legacy.com/dailyprogress/Obi … D=86564521
Anybody else know anything about this?
Dear Andreas,
I wish I knew. All I can say is that the church he is to have services at really exists. The contact info for the bereavement counselor is:
Marta Brannon, 293-8081×18 / lbrannon@cstone.netIf anybody is tying Scientology to the death of this young Catholic man, it should be discussed with the family, and this thread should be referred to the bereavement counselor, along with information about the dangers of Scientology.
I would also advise that you keep a screen copy of the IP info and the admin log showing when this person logged on, and from whence he came to OCMB.
Here is a link to speak directly to the Pastor Fr Brian Martin Mulcahy, OP:
http://www.st-thomas-aquinas.org/contac … ahy,%20O.P.
Allegations of a death being caused by religious fanatacism to a religion the dead person seems not to belong to is very suspicious, IMO. The family should be informed that their son is targeted by someone claiming that he was a Scientology martyr.
Love,
Os
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- Post by Morsicle » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:49 amIt would be very much like $cientology to see if they can get critics to jump all over a death that has NOTHING TO DO WITH $cientology.Then they can use that to blow smoke about how the critics “are prone to overreact.”
- would tread gently.”What a lot of people don’t realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period.”-[url=http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm]L. Ron Hubbard Jr[/url].Top
Post by Os Wilkes » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:34 am
Morsicle wrote:It would be very much like $cientology to see if they can get critics to jump all over a death that has NOTHING TO DO WITH $cientology.
Then they can use that to blow smoke about how the critics “are prone to overreact.”
I would tread gently.
EXACTLY! I would send all documented info to the church. But it would have to be documented.OH I forgot to mention that I have seen fake OBITS, so the church should be contacted to see if it is a real obit. Andreas can substantiate that he received the message which came from somebody who KNEW OF THE DEATH. Andreas can probably document the ISP that message was sent from.
Regardless, any targeting by the cult of Scientology of a dead young man should be brought to the attention of his family! Somehow, this person was interested in the young man’s death and this is CREEPY. If the intent is to discredit Andreas, Andreas can cover his ass by presenting the EVIDENCE that this message came from ELSEWHERE than HIS network of associates.
That is why I suggested contacting the bereavement counselor or the pastor to present them with this, along with the evidence that it happened, and information regarding the abuses of Scientology.
How can any person be faulted for being careful?
Love,
Os
Post by Morsicle » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:46 am
Psychiatry is medicine. As such it is evolving, in transition and imperfect.
None of that argues for holding two tin cans hooked to a voltameter and “auditing away” clingy, brainwashed space-alien ghosts that trace back to the evil warlord Xenu and his ever reincarnating band of ‘psychs’ all because a dead science fiction writer said so.
Yes, medicine is imperfect. But $cientology is madness.
“What a lot of people don’t realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period.”
Post by magoo1 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:26 am
How tragic.
I’m sorry the Mother has bought that this had nothing to do with
Scientology. Having now known 7 young men who were all involved in
Scientology, in one way or another, and then took their own lives, saying
this man had a Scientology Father—and thinking it had “nothing to do with
Scientology”—well, she needs to learn more about this cult.Even if her son truly hated Scientology, which it sounds like he did, having
his Father deeply into it, well, we just don’t know how deeply that may have
affected him. I know having stood over one of my dear friends who shot
himself to death, it isn’t pretty, and that young man had one parent “in”
and one parent “out”. Let’s never forget Phillip Gayle who helped start up Earthlink, and jumped out of the 15th story window of MIT, On L. Ron Hubbard’s B-day! All of his college friends said he didn’t like Scientology, either, but his Mom was a top Spokesperson for CCHR at the time, which for those new here is a Scientology side group against psychs.It makes for deep conflict, from all I’ve experienced
and observed.My blessings to Victoria and any and all friends of this young man. May he
rest in peace, and fly high with the angels.Tory/Magoo~~~
-[url=http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm]L. Ron Hubbard Jr[/url].
Post by Judith Anderson » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:16 pm
It’s another example of Scientology’s “spiritual” intrusion, imposing their beliefs on non-members, in this case with tragic consequences. Scientologists prevented one of my family members, who was NOT a Scientologist from taking medications and that’s what happened here. Of course the cult would never admit to it for fear of a lawsuit.
When he was found by his father it appears that his father’s primary concern was how it would look for Scientology. Of secondary consideration was calling the paramedics who might have saved his son’s life. His mom described his father’s reaction as inhuman. She’s right. A parent who loved him would have tried desperately to save him, rather than reacting like a cyborg. The longer my Scieno relatives stayed in, the colder they became.I can’t imagine any anguish greater than losing a child.
Post by daisy » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:46 pm
Since Kyle’s anti-depressant medicine was not found on him, I can only assume his scientolgist father either took it or refused for his son to take it. I too, was as brainwashed as his father. Twenty-five years ago, I refused to give my nephew his medication when I was taking care of him because I believed hubbard knew more then a medical doctor. I put my nephew in harms way because of my belief in this cults teachings.
I also agree that his father waiting so long for help sounds too familiar when tragedy strikes and the cult members are afraid of the bad PR.
Post by mickwenlock » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:03 am
daisy wrote:Since Kyle’s anti-depressant medicine was not found on him, I can only assume his scientolgist father either took it or refused for his son to take it. I too, was as brainwashed as his father. Twenty-five years ago, I refused to give my nephew his medication when I was taking care of him because I believed hubbard knew more then a medical doctor. I put my nephew in harms way because of my belief in this cults teachings.
I also agree that his father waiting so long for help sounds too familiar when tragedy strikes and the cult members are afraid of the bad PR.
I don’t effing believe it. Again? These assholes ONCE AGAIN don’t call for competent emergency help instead seeking to “manage” the bad news.
How can these people be so morally bankrupt? Jesus I hope I was not this bad when I was in. What a sickening thought.
Post by admin » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:04 pm
Message from a relative of Kyle:
[…] it’s important people know that Kyle’s medication was found in his father’s truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.
- Andreas @ http://www.xenu.net
[b]- Life is not a test.[/b]Post by Kilia » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:01 pm
admin wrote:Message from a relative of Kyle:
[…] it’s important people know that Kyle’s medication was found in his father’s truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.
Ya know..that is just plain criminal! I hope they get him for murder!
Scientology’s PR scene is NOT important! – Justifying a kids death to avoid a stupid PR flap! – No matter what Hubbard said.. That’s WRONG!
Susan Meister: Shot through the head abord the Apollo. LRH was aboard that ship.. $cientology acting indiffernt, like they didn’t give a shit! Threathening Susans father in an attempt to scare him from suing.
Lisa McPherson: Believing blindly in the ‘tech’ despite Lisa dying of thirst before you very eyes!? – Introspection RD.. To give her peace and quiet! – When it was obvious that she needed to get the hell away from SCIENTOLOGY!! – Which was the disturbing influence!!
Stacy Moxon: Depraved indifference caused her to be electrocuted. OSA fabricating shore stories. Was she ordered down in that vault as an ethics action? – If she was, did anyone tell her father?
Elli Perkins: Her son Jeremy killed her. Scientology auditing did not make Jeremy well. Feeding him vitamins in stead of ‘psych drugs’ didn’t help him either! – And it certainly didn’t help his mother!
There are many more examples: http://www.whyaretheydead.net
This kind of shit has to stop!
admin wrote:Message from a relative of Kyle:
[…] it’s important people know that Kyle’s medication was found in his father’s truck when the police did their search. The Scientologist he called was Jerry Gentile who I believe is in charge of the CoS Special Affairs Dept.
Jerry Gentile is the current husband of Denise Miscavige Covington
Licciardi Gentile.Denise is DM’s twin sister.
Patty P
Education is not a hate crime.
Patty P
Holy shit.“Is leaving Scientology the new black?”
Post by songbird » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:21 pmHoly shit indeed.
A woman named Diane Gentile (she pronounced it Gen-teel) was Reg at the Scn mission in Redondo Beach, CA some years back.Anyone know whether she is related to Jerry Gentile?Post by Patty Pieniadz » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:15 pm
songbird wrote:Holy shit indeed.
A woman named Diane Gentile (she pronounced it Gen-teel) was Reg at the Scn mission in Redondo Beach, CA some years back.
Anyone know whether she is related to Jerry Gentile?I kind of doubt it.
Denise met Jerry at the WISE company called Digital Lightwave,
while she was still married to Sam Liccardi.Jerry was a wog at the time.
Denise is very predatory when it comes to men. The first time she
met my husband (I was not present) she was wearing a short
tight leather skirt and a tight top. She walked up to Bobby
(my husband) and gave a a full kiss on the lips. My husband
was the D/ED of the Boston Org at the time and knew she
was DM’s sister and didn’t quite know what to make of it.I told him it was her way of controlling men. I had heard stories
from other men that she had done similar things to them.Patty
Education is not a hate crime.
http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/pieniadz1.html - Post by lulu_belle » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:47 pmPatty Pieniadz wrote:Denise is very predatory when it comes to men. The first time she
met my husband (I was not present) she was wearing a short
tight leather skirt and a tight top. She walked up to Bobby
(my husband) and gave a a full kiss on the lips. My husband
was the D/ED of the Boston Org at the time and knew she
was DM’s sister and didn’t quite know what to make of it.I told him it was her way of controlling men. I had heard stories
from other men that she had done similar things to them.
Wasn’t there a Miscavige sister who supposedly left Scientology and became a prostitute? (I don’t know if this is actually true or not.) - DM has two sister, Denise his twin, and Lori Verneuille who I believe
still lives in New Hampshire.Denise is the one with the “history”. I don’t know if she was actually
hooking, but I know that when she was younger she was “wild” and
reverted to drugs after Scn auditing.Patty P
Post by Sponge » Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:32 am
Good news. The motion to dismiss has been denied.
ORDER DENYING MOTION TO DISMISS.pdf ……
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3t1zjmnynttref: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leak … aint-48106
Other related thread: viewtopic.php?t=30174
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